Does the rabbit hole move into a Sacred Count 4?

Forest

While reading the Tao TE Ching yesterday - Passage 42 came forward after posting this question.

The Tao gives birth to One.
One gives to Two.
Two gives birth to Three.
Three gives birth to all things.

All things have their backs to the female
and stand facing the male.
When male and female combine,
all things achieve harmony.

Ordinary men hate solitude.
But the Master makes use of it,
embracing his aloneness, realizing
he is one with the whole universe.

Thank you Forest. Love, Elaine

so does that answer your question, forest? 

please share your understanding of that which you posted and how it pertains to your question? 
blessings,
steven

so according to this, “all things” are the manifestation of Breath breathed by 3 or SC3…  so maybe there need not be a Sacred Count Four?  remember that i teach or train what i do… so if there that might be called anything beyond SC3 i have never been called to go there nor did the healing Journeys of any of my patients require that i go there in order to support their healing.  so ask yourself the question, i am thinking about this because what i am doing is not working to support my patients… and i am tracking where they need me to go in order to go support their healing (making the difference between healing and not healing), or am i thinking about this because mind can and it has no basis in experiential healing?  map… or mindfuck?

also read the piece i just wrote in the thread about Breath from elaine’s or sybille’s first post.
blessings,

also what do you mean by “does the rabbithole move into SC4”?  you mean Breath, right?

I am referring to the Breath of creator in relationship to the rabbit hole, yes. 

I don’t see this question as a “mind fuck”.  We are an evolving species with a growing awareness of the rhythm inherent of the universe.  A question I strive to ask with in most of my esoteric/existential/experiential questions is - What is Possible.  How expansive can physics, science, math, healing, compassion, humanity, etc become ...

Based on the passage posted earlier on the Tao Te Ching - Three gives birth to all things - fascinating because SC3 moves into infinity.
That is a massive exponetional increase. Going from 1 > 2 > 3 > infinite

If we are willing to look at the mystery generated in the three sacred counts it is reasonable to look beyond in an honorable way, at the awe inspiring nature of life.

The Last Stanza speaks volumes.

Ordinary Men hate solitude.
But the Master makes use of it,
embracing her aloneness, realizing
he is one with the whole universe.

The bottom line for me - spend more time in solitude when the opportunity arrises and hold questions to the embracing universe.

I am referring to the Breath of creator in relationship to the rabbit hole, yes.
good.  i am just working to understand your statement and to do my piece to keep the language clear.

I don’t see this question as a “mind fuck”.
good.  although i think that is the first question to ask one’s self, and not to accept any question at face value, just because of the nature of the mind.  remember where the mind and the question sit in the medicine wheel.  they sit in men’s lodge, the first, least developed, least evolved, most suspect council lodge. the place where thoughts and data have to become to become purged to become wisdom!

We are an evolving species with a growing awareness of the rhythm inherent of the universe.  A question I strive to ask with in most of my esoteric/existential/experiential questions is - What is Possible.  How expansive can physics, science, math, healing, compassion, humanity, etc become ...
and i wonder whether the mind in itself is capable of bringing us there.  to me, only by getting out of the way and opening to Creator can this happen!  a humble place.

Based on the passage posted earlier on the Tao Te Ching - Three gives birth to all things - fascinating because SC3 moves into infinity.
That is a massive exponetional increase. Going from 1 > 2 > 3 > infinite
so cool!  i love it!  i did not recall this passage.  so grateful to you for presenting it to us!

If we are willing to look at the mystery generated in the three sacred counts it is reasonable to look beyond in an honorable way, at the awe inspiring nature of life.
A-ho!  but there’s the question: how to look beyond in an honorable way.  i think it is only experience… or maybe ceremony that offers us that breakthrough to seeing that which the mind is not yet capable of knowing.  so are we looking, or allowing ourselves to be observed by the Mystery?  who is really looking at whom?  do we look (active), or get out of the way and wait for the Mystery to come and inform us (perceptual).

The Last Stanza speaks volumes.

Ordinary Men hate solitude.
But the Master makes use of it,
embracing her aloneness, realizing
he is one with the whole universe.

The bottom line for me - spend more time in solitude when the opportunity arrises and hold questions to the embracing universe.
yes but what or where is solitude?  hmmm…. the seams of stillness between the thoughts…  or between the tissues… the nonduality behind all dualistic expression and sensations…?  and yes in wilderness.  i heve been working to access it in new york all these years.  thanks for great introspection and answers!  bowing deeply.

A further Reprise into infinity- with guidance from the Tao Te Ching - translated by Stephen Mitchell

Chapter 14

Look, and it can’t be seen.
Listen, and it can’t be heard.
Reach, and it can’t be grasped.

Above, it isn’t bright.
Below, it isn’t dark.
Seamless, unnamable,
it returns to the realm of nothing.
Form that includes all forms,
image without an image,
subtle, beyond all conception.

Approach it and there is no beginning;
follow it and there is no end.
You cant’ know it, but you can be it,
as ease in your own life.
Just realize where you come from:
this is the essence of wisdom.